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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:30 pm
by Paganlight

Good or bad? Let's hear what you think...

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:37 pm
by Stormy
In my opinion, anything that you can learn 'on line' or 'on CD' you can just as easily, and with less bias, teach yourself simply by canvasing the web for free information, buying a few books and meditating or journeying for help/answers. I feel that if you can't have a real live person to teach you, that YOU and your deity(s) are the best teachers, sprinkled with a little input and advice from online communities/friends as needed - not some "I'm gonna get rich off of this" web site.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:42 pm
by Crazy Healer Lady
I agree with Stormy...
My personal and unadulterated opinion (which is easy in my grumpy mood) is that it sucks.
"Learn Hollywood Wiccanism and play "Light as a feather stiff as a board" like they do in the Craft!"
Okay that is mean and pretty harsh. Without actually taking a course I cannot really make a good opinion, but anything like this really turns me off. It reminds me of those ads on the back of comics: "Send $25 and we will send you a certificate for becoming a warlock!" My friend became a priest with an online thing that was really cheesy and he holds it high above everyones' heads. It reminds me of that. But prove me wrong. ^_^ I may just be blinded by my extreme grumpiness, which is entirely possible.

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:22 pm
by Paganlight
Yeah, I'm a bit....iffy about it. But I've signed up for the basic (free) course, just to get a taster. I've taken the first lesson and test in Introduction to Psychic Development - They do seem to know what they're talking about.

"The course consists of five lessons listed below.
1) Introduction
2) Chakras / aura
3) Meditation
4) Psychic self defense
5) Psychic attack "

And there is an email adress available if I want to speak to someone for clarification...I'll take the rest of the course (the next test is available in 6 days) and let you know how it goes. I'm actually finding it really interesting, as a supplement to my own research. I wouldn't pay for the so-called 'benefits' though.

As a taster, here's the first paragraph from the second lesson:

"Science has proven the existence of atoms, the smallest building block of all matter. Atoms are composed of three sub-atomic particles each having a unique electrical charge to it. Protons have a positive charge. Neutrons have a neutral charge. Electrons have a negative charge. It is through the interactions of these sub-atomic particles that all the necessary chemical reactions for life occur. That potential for a chemical reaction to occur is a form of energy. Heat, light, and sound are other forms of energy. Everything is made up of energy. Rocks, trees, and animals are composed of energy. All have energy radiating from them to form spheres of energy around their physical bodies termed auras. Auras are like the halos you see around moon sometimes."

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:02 pm
by scoia
Sounds entirely dodgy to me.

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:37 pm
by Kystar
Really, it sounds like they gathered up info from about 7 different books and cramed it together.

I wouldn't trust them.

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:03 pm
by morgana
Yeah, I dunno, I just have always disliked the whole idea that someone has to TEACH you what to believe. I believe that something as personal as spiritual beliefs is not something that should be taught like a science class, but rather discovered individually. Hence why I prefer books. You can read them and take what you need and leave what you don't need, or whatever doesn't feel "right" for you. It's always been my experience that when someone tries to teach you something, it's their way or no way at all. Same for internet courses. Not to mention, anyone can create one of those online courses, so there's no telling if they actually have any REAL credibility. Just my opinion though. :-)

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:50 pm
by Crazy Healer Lady
often you have to believe all of it or none of it. No religion is right. I can guarantee that whatever any of you believe, it is not what is right. But that does not matter. As long as it is right for YOU, that is what matters.
A little off-topic but that is all right, methink.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:15 am
by Paganlight
No, I agree, it's whatever feels right for you!

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:36 pm
by Crazy Healer Lady
Ha, sorry, last night I was in a strange mood and went off on a crazy rant.
Just an apologetic post because I got the feeling you thought it was, urm, hostile :oops: It was a crazy rant. :D

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:49 pm
by Lotus
I'm tired of people using religion (anyone's religion) as a means to make money.


Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:26 pm
by Paganlight
Crazy Healer Lady wrote:Ha, sorry, last night I was in a strange mood and went off on a crazy rant.
Just an apologetic post because I got the feeling you thought it was, urm, hostile :oops: It was a crazy rant. :D
*huggles* not at all! I neither support nor disagree with this site, though I do strongly agree with Lotus - What does the rede say:
"When you have and hold a need,
Hearken not to other's greed..."

So for a site which claims to teach Wicca, they are going against the Rede....*sigh*

If they had this information up for free, merely as essays, and not having to take tests (point of that is......???) then I think some of it could actually be quite useful, but the fact it is advertised as a 'school' makes it sound like their 'lessons' are the only way to learn. I think for someone wanting to learn more, and who knows that what's right is what is right for you, as CHL says, it may be useful. I've learnt a little from the free lesson I took, and found it quite useful, but I''m taking it with a pinch of salt, and I know it's by no means the only place to get info from, and no way would I PAY anything for these 'courses'!

I thin it's a bit... :^o

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:04 am
by runewulf
I'm not really going to say Ye or Ne on this. I don't have their curriculum to review nor do I know their methods. However I will say this:

Everyone learns a little differently. If they have good curriculum and the cost isn't too much more than a few books, I say to each their own. To this I will add, if they have a mentor program or something like that, then that would be a check in their favor, because it is always good to have guides.

One other note, the rede is modern, not ancient. A lot of pagan and magickal paths don't go by the rede. The rede is not a universal law unless you believe in it. However, that said, what goes around does eventually come around, so it's best to be aware of this and try and act accordingly. Personally, I don't follow the rede but instead I follow my own moral guidelines, which is summarized basically by "Do all things with honor".

Now, if these folks are just cramming a mish-mash of wicca info together and selling it off with nothing else, then I agree, it's a bad thing.

I will reserve judgement though until I've seen their materials.


Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:45 am
by Paganlight
I believe the cost is something like $30 for a lifetime membership....something like that, anyway.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:54 am
by Crazy Healer Lady
$30... Not too bad. Does that include the courses and such, too? Or are those extra?